Comments for china/divide http://chinadivide.com Social and Political Commentary on Modern China Mon, 26 Sep 2011 04:59:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 Comment on Fu Ying Spiegel Interview: “The West Has Become Very Conceited” by S.K. Cheung http://chinadivide.com/2011/fu-ying-spiegel-interview-the-west-has-become-very-conceited.html#comment-6874 S.K. Cheung Mon, 26 Sep 2011 04:59:38 +0000 http://chinadivide.com/?p=916#comment-6874 Interesting post. I'm also curious if this was a face-to-face interview, because some of Spiegel's questions are framed in a rather unpleasant way. And if Ms. Fu provided the answers she did on the fly, then she is indeed a very skilled diplomat who has an expert grasp of the usual talking points. Considering that this interview is meant for "western" consumption, I think people will generally come away being impressed by her, but their views on China will not change one iota, simply because the content of her responses breaks no new ground and slavishly adheres to the party line...which is of course her job...and which is to say that she did her job well from that perspective. You've done an impressive job in dissecting the interview in such detail. In general, i think the Spiegel journalist was being a bit rude. And in general, I think she did particularly well on the economic/military/defense questions, which mirrors China's strengths. At the same time, I think she did generally poorly when it came to human rights and Tibet, which coincides with where the CCP lags. And the words "conceit" and "Cold War" were used so often so as to lose their effect, unless it was for the purposes of a drinking game. Interesting post. I’m also curious if this was a face-to-face interview, because some of Spiegel’s questions are framed in a rather unpleasant way. And if Ms. Fu provided the answers she did on the fly, then she is indeed a very skilled diplomat who has an expert grasp of the usual talking points.

Considering that this interview is meant for “western” consumption, I think people will generally come away being impressed by her, but their views on China will not change one iota, simply because the content of her responses breaks no new ground and slavishly adheres to the party line…which is of course her job…and which is to say that she did her job well from that perspective.

You’ve done an impressive job in dissecting the interview in such detail. In general, i think the Spiegel journalist was being a bit rude. And in general, I think she did particularly well on the economic/military/defense questions, which mirrors China’s strengths. At the same time, I think she did generally poorly when it came to human rights and Tibet, which coincides with where the CCP lags. And the words “conceit” and “Cold War” were used so often so as to lose their effect, unless it was for the purposes of a drinking game.

]]> Comment on Fu Ying Spiegel Interview: “The West Has Become Very Conceited” by pug_ster http://chinadivide.com/2011/fu-ying-spiegel-interview-the-west-has-become-very-conceited.html#comment-6852 pug_ster Fri, 26 Aug 2011 14:22:11 +0000 http://chinadivide.com/?p=916#comment-6852 Wow, after a 5 month hiatus, you come back with an interesting article. I am surprised that Fu Ying allowed Der Spiegel to give them these kind of questions. I wonder if any Chinese reporters can have an interview with the German diplomat who claims that Chinese land acquisitions have at least partly been responsible for famine in Africa. Wow, after a 5 month hiatus, you come back with an interesting article. I am surprised that Fu Ying allowed Der Spiegel to give them these kind of questions. I wonder if any Chinese reporters can have an interview with the German diplomat who claims that Chinese land acquisitions have at least partly been responsible for famine in Africa.

]]> Comment on Fu Ying Spiegel Interview: “The West Has Become Very Conceited” by Kedafu http://chinadivide.com/2011/fu-ying-spiegel-interview-the-west-has-become-very-conceited.html#comment-6851 Kedafu Fri, 26 Aug 2011 12:47:35 +0000 http://chinadivide.com/?p=916#comment-6851 Komrade Kaipan nice article, When I was reading this, was listening to..... Song of the Article I Wish Franka Potente + Thomas D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuUqT_xBcA8 catch you on the next wave...... 五毛党 your faithful follower -kedafu Komrade Kaipan
nice article,

When I was reading this, was listening to…..

Song of the Article

I Wish
Franka Potente + Thomas D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuUqT_xBcA8

catch you on the next wave……

五毛党

your faithful follower
-kedafu

]]> Comment on Fu Ying Spiegel Interview: “The West Has Become Very Conceited” by King Tubby http://chinadivide.com/2011/fu-ying-spiegel-interview-the-west-has-become-very-conceited.html#comment-6849 King Tubby Fri, 26 Aug 2011 09:08:14 +0000 http://chinadivide.com/?p=916#comment-6849 Okay. Okay. Pretty smooth responses and probably even better when reframed. Will they allay fears and suspicions? Highly unlikely. Q and A engagements such as this are always negated by the prior historical record relating to the issues touched upon. Temporary audience anaesthetic at best and not much more. This applies equally to Madame Fu, David Cameron or Oz PM Gillard. Okay. Okay. Pretty smooth responses and probably even better when reframed. Will they allay fears and suspicions? Highly unlikely. Q and A engagements such as this are always negated by the prior historical record relating to the issues touched upon. Temporary audience anaesthetic at best and not much more.

This applies equally to Madame Fu, David Cameron or Oz PM Gillard.

]]> Comment on NYT Acknowledges Mistake With Shakespeare “Protest” Anecdote by Kai Pan http://chinadivide.com/2011/nyt-acknowledges-mistake-with-shakespeare-protest-anecdote.html#comment-6848 Kai Pan Fri, 26 Aug 2011 07:38:10 +0000 http://chinadivide.com/?p=912#comment-6848 Hey SKC, no, not really blogging or commenting much these days but as you can see, I've just thrown up a long post that started off as a rare comment. Yeah, I've made a few comments recently at HH when I've seen an interesting post. LoL, I'm also quite surprised by all the animosity that has built up around Custer too. Since when did he start commenting so much there and since when did HH become so hostile? Anyway, rock on. Hey SKC, no, not really blogging or commenting much these days but as you can see, I’ve just thrown up a long post that started off as a rare comment. Yeah, I’ve made a few comments recently at HH when I’ve seen an interesting post. LoL, I’m also quite surprised by all the animosity that has built up around Custer too. Since when did he start commenting so much there and since when did HH become so hostile? Anyway, rock on.

]]> Comment on Fu Ying Spiegel Interview: “The West Has Become Very Conceited” by Kai Pan http://chinadivide.com/2011/fu-ying-spiegel-interview-the-west-has-become-very-conceited.html#comment-6847 Kai Pan Fri, 26 Aug 2011 07:32:07 +0000 http://chinadivide.com/?p=916#comment-6847 LoL, your facetious reply made me chuckle. LoL, your facetious reply made me chuckle.

]]> Comment on Fu Ying Spiegel Interview: “The West Has Become Very Conceited” by tc http://chinadivide.com/2011/fu-ying-spiegel-interview-the-west-has-become-very-conceited.html#comment-6846 tc Fri, 26 Aug 2011 01:49:01 +0000 http://chinadivide.com/?p=916#comment-6846 I stopped reading your long post at "...the sheer size of China only make such work more difficult...". The west have been working very hard trying to break China into pieces, and you think that's a better argument? I stopped reading your long post at “…the sheer size of China only make such work more difficult…”.

The west have been working very hard trying to break China into pieces, and you think that’s a better argument?

]]> Comment on Fu Ying Spiegel Interview: “The West Has Become Very Conceited” by King Tubby http://chinadivide.com/2011/fu-ying-spiegel-interview-the-west-has-become-very-conceited.html#comment-6845 King Tubby Thu, 25 Aug 2011 21:46:53 +0000 http://chinadivide.com/?p=916#comment-6845 Checking my email. I don't believe this. I'm totally incredulous! Checking my email. I don’t believe this. I’m totally incredulous!

]]> Comment on Fu Ying Spiegel Interview: “The West Has Become Very Conceited” by DSLAM http://chinadivide.com/2011/fu-ying-spiegel-interview-the-west-has-become-very-conceited.html#comment-6844 DSLAM Thu, 25 Aug 2011 19:34:36 +0000 http://chinadivide.com/?p=916#comment-6844 An interesting analysis. Thanks. I was encouraged by some of the questions by Speigel as well as some of the answers by Madame Fu. Eventually, in the future, when the CCP is no longer in power, these sort of responses by the Chinese govt. will seem rather charming and quaint I think. An interesting analysis. Thanks. I was encouraged by some of the questions by Speigel as well as some of the answers by Madame Fu.

Eventually, in the future, when the CCP is no longer in power, these sort of responses by the Chinese govt. will seem rather charming and quaint I think.

]]> Comment on NYT Acknowledges Mistake With Shakespeare “Protest” Anecdote by S.K. Cheung http://chinadivide.com/2011/nyt-acknowledges-mistake-with-shakespeare-protest-anecdote.html#comment-6840 S.K. Cheung Sun, 07 Aug 2011 07:59:37 +0000 http://chinadivide.com/?p=912#comment-6840 Hi KP, are you still blogging? Abrams and Custer have their own blogs; are you going to start one up as well? I've always respected your methodical and logical writing style, and was reminded of it when someone showed me your recent comments on HH. Hi KP,

are you still blogging? Abrams and Custer have their own blogs; are you going to start one up as well? I’ve always respected your methodical and logical writing style, and was reminded of it when someone showed me your recent comments on HH.

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