Google Left China = Baidu Gained = Chinese Netizens Lose

Cartoon showing the a Google shaped hole in the Great Wall being bricked up.

Earlier this year, we all went through the "Google Leaving China" debacle. To review, a combination of frustrations had brought Google to reconsider its willingness to continue operating the Google.cn search property as they had previously agreed upon with the Chinese government. Google sought to renegotiate, while the government insisted that companies operating in China must abide by China's laws. Set on no longer abiding by those laws and knowing they could not legally operate in China as a result, Google shuttered Google.cn and told Chinese internet users they can use Google search at google.com.hk.

Much has already been said of the ramifications surrounding this turn of events, of the potential good and harm it has done, to freedom and to mainland Chinese netizens. I won't rehash them here. I do, however, want to take a look at how things are now, several months later, and revisit some of the things we had openly anticipated and feared.

The Chinese Government Hasn't Blocked Google Since It Left...

In the days and weeks following Google's unilateral decision to follow through on its threat to no longer censor Google.cn by dismantling it and redirecting to google.com.hk, many of us sat here nervously awaiting the Chinese government's response. We were all waiting to see if the Chinese government would censor Google search completely for Chinese netizens by blocking google.com.hk and any other Google search property. We were waiting to see if the Chinese government would throw a hissy fit and "punish" Google by blocking more than just search but also many of Google's other famously practical and useful services like GMail and its then-recently-released Google Buzz.

The Chinese government did neither, showing a measure of restraint widely unexpected by many of its critics. Others rationalized that any additional theatrics from the government's side would only hurt the government more, by drawing more attention to their censorship policies, something that is begrudgingly assented to but still largely unpopular. To this day, Chinese internet users can still access Google internet search by typing in Google.cn and being redirected to google.com.hk.

Some of us, including myself, thought the Chinese government would revoke Google.cn domain name (it can directly control the registration for .cn domain names). Doing so would disrupt the Google.cn to google.com.hk redirect that gave some superficial semblance of Google still being available "in China". As long as mainland users could type "google.cn" and reach an actual Google search engine, it would seem like Google was still available in China as usual. I figured if Google wasn't going to play by the government's censorship rules, the government may not opt to completely ban Google but it wouldn't do Google any favors by letting them keep a functioning redirect to maintain that superficial semblance. I was wrong.

Maybe the reasons are technical. There remain quite a few non-search-related Google services1 tied to and still accessible under the google.cn domain name despite the top-level domain name itself being redirected to google.com.hk. Maybe revoking the entire domain name would cause too many problems for these remaining services. Maybe the government reasoned to eliminating the redirect would also draw more unwanted attention that wasn't worth disrupting the superficial semblance Google is maintaining. Maybe they just don't care as much as we thought they would.

But Baidu Has Gotten Stronger...

While Google hasn't been categorically blocked and Chinese internet users are still free to use most of Google's services (including -- albeit still censored -- internet search), one thing that everyone expected did indeed come to pass: Baidu benefiting from losing its only serious rival. A month following the end of Google.cn saw Google's China marketshare drop nearly 13% while Baidu's market share increased around 9.6%. While Baidu's stock rose 14%, Google's dropped 12%.

Comparison of Google and Baidu stock following Google's announcement to shut down China internet search operations.

Part of Baidu's increases here were due first to the uncertainty of Google staying in the mainland China search market and then to Google leaving. However, much of it is because Baidu's services work just fine. In fact, they clearly provide enough utility for the majority of Chinese internet users to continue using them. It isn't a stretch to acknowledge that at least some of Baidu's success is actually legitimate, as a result of its own good decisions and positioning for available opportunities. It isn't a stretch to also acknowledge that some of Baidu's success is a direct result of Google not making good decisions and not being positioned for the same available opportunities. However much Baidu has benefited from offering pirated music, questionable government interference, or even any conscious home-team bias the Chinese market can be accused of, no company becomes so successful without at least some competency. You can blame market inertia or even market ignorance but no matter what you say, it will never change the basic fact that Baidu has thus far read and played its market more successfully than its competitors. Life isn't fair.

Therefore, what I am about to say next is mostly me viewing Baidu through my own colored-lenses, which are admittedly heavily influenced by Google and how Google has treated me as an internet user. So no, I'm not being fair, but I am being honest.

And Baidu Is Fucking Garbage

No one fears Baidu seriously threatening Google's dominance outside of the domestic Chinese market, but a good deal of people outside of Baidu and Baidu's investors have good reason to lament Baidu's success and any extra success at the expense of Google's departure. Why? Because Baidu doesn't just engage in ethically questionable business practices, but does so without any apparent sense of shame.

Baidu CEO Robin Li.

Robin Li, you may be rich, powerful, Western-educated, and Western-financed but you're still a dick!

Google, of course, is far from a saint, but I'll go out on a limb and argue that the average person actually has to dig to find any dirt on Google, the kind of dirt that has clearly negative impacts upon both the individual and broader society that depends on its services. In contrast, for Baidu, all it takes is a single search to see shady business practices that systematically mislead and exploit its users.

At the end of March, after Google's departure, well-known entrepreneur Marc van der Chijs remarked:

One big difference between Baidu and Google is how the paid results are mixed with organic search results. Both sites insert paid results, but Google gives them a yellow background so that it’s clear that they are different from the normal search results. Baidu does not do that, they look exactly the same as normal results, except for the characters 推广(tui guang) after the ad. Normal results have 白度快照 (Baidu kuai zhao). Of course the average Chinese netizen probably does not know this.

This is nothing new, they have done this for a long time already. But what changed over the past few weeks, is that they now don’t sell 2 or 3 paid positions, but for some keywords up to 10 positions! For example, if you do a search for the Chinese word for game (游戏), the first 10 results are all paid results. If you look at the screen shot for the search I did, you only see paid results, both on the left and right side. Not one organic result pops up on the main page. [...]

I think that Baidu is able to do this only because it’s a quasi-monopolist now. With Google gone to Hong Kong they suddenly have the whole search engine market for themselves. If you are annoyed by their search results you don’t have a good alternative.

Two months later today, it is the same situation:

Baidu's first 10 search results for 游戏 (games) are all paid advertisements. Could you tell?

Every single one of those "results" (on the left side) are paid advertisements. While the advertisements have changed since March, there are still 10 of them nearly indistinguishable from the organic (ranked according to the search engine's relevancy algorithms) results buried below them. Compare that to the paid advertisements that may be placed within Google's results:

Google search results for "好玩游戏" (fun game).

Notice the subtle but distinct background color difference, the explicit "Sponsored Links" disclaimer, and how the paid results are formatted differently from organic results, with the website URL coming before the description, and a noticeably  shorter description length.

Yes, Baidu has the right to sell and insert as many ads as it wants to fund its service, make a living. Furthermore, to be fair, not all of the search results Baidu offers up are plagued with this sort of "advertisement posing as legitimate search result" phenomenon either. Just many of the most popular and basic keywords.

Last night, in a conference call with analysts, Baidu unveiled its response: A new system that more clearly separates its paid links from ordinary search results.

“We are doing this because we care. It is important to us. We want to be a responsible corporate citizen,” said Baidu chief executive Robin Li.

This conference call was from November...2008. Prior to it, Baidu had been "exposed" by CCTV, China's state television broadcaster, for featuring advertisements just like those above that led to scam websites. Getting your money cheated is one thing, but imagine getting medical services from the unlicensed hospitals or ingesting any medicine from the unlicensed pharmaceutical companies that have paid their way to the top of Baidu's search results. Imagine getting fleeced while having an abortion.

Nearly two years later, not only has Baidu not evidenced any "care" to be a "responsible corporate citizen"2, it has sold more of its search results to companies and scammers, is still regularly accused of manipulating or censoring its search results for companies suffering PR disasters, and has only become emboldened by Google's departure.

I'm very understanding about the desire to make money. I'm not very understanding about the willingness to deceive people, to do so. Even if they're fools.  As such, I have little tolerance for the scam operations, deceptive advertising, and companies that knowingly facilitate others doing such for a cut of the profits, which is exactly what Baidu is doing, knowingly.

So...I'm Torn

On one hand, I'm happy that my worst fears of Google being categorically blocked in China were not realized. On the other hand, I'm still deeply disappointed and aggravated by what I see as Baidu largely having free reign over the Chinese internet search market, and all because Google isn't making any serious efforts to fight them for it.

Natalie Imbruglia

Yeah, not me.

No, I don't like that Google has to self-censor to do so, but I don't like the idea of Baidu getting away with all of these antics without a real competitor to challenge it, a competitor providing and promoting to Chinese netizens a different search experience, one where search results aren't potential landmines. I don't like that Chinese netizens aren't being fought for by Google, and being educated in the process, educated that business can be done differently.

I felt that Google having an active, dedicated presence in China explicitly seeking to serve the mainland Chinese market and all its quirks and obstacles at least communicated good faith to Chinese netizens. Google was saying, "I'll meet you halfway so we can play together". It made the "Google alternative" less like foreign fruit only foreigners can enjoy and more a real alternative to Baidu, to Baidu's search results, to Baidu's shady business practices.

Yes, its selfish, selfish to think Google ought to compromise something it cares about for what I think is a greater good it can do right now for a lot of people I think need to see that it can be done. But that's how I feel. A less censored and more free internet is definitely desirable, but if we can't get everything we want at the same time, if we have to fight our battles one at a time, I do feel that a more transparent and less scammy set of search results contributes a whole lot of good towards furthering the development and sophistication of China's businesses and consumers3. It just so happens that more sophisticated Chinese businesses and consumers would be the kind of troops needed in future battle for less censorship and more freedom. One step at a time.

True, by virtue of still being accessible within mainland China, Google in Hong Kong is still an "alternative", but having left the Chinese market also -- however unfairly or irrelevantly or inadvertently -- communicated that their way doesn't work in China, that their way doesn't work for China, that their way doesn't work with the Chinese people. It taught the people to lose hope, to resign themselves to Baidu, that Baidu's way of doing things is the only way to succeed in China. That's not true and good examples of it not being true are needed to remind people that its not true. Maybe this is an exaggeration, but the best way to counter the 没办法4 is to show someone there is a 办法5.

Google in Hong Kong is different from Google in China. With the former, its easy to say "well, Hong Kong is different" and it is. With the latter, there's one less tired excuse.

Of course, it may even be short-sighted of me, to have placed so much hope and faith on an enlightened monarch, on Google being that "good" example. After all, Google's motto is "Do no evil", not "Do good" nor "Be a good example", right? For all we know, Google might become fucking garbage the very moment it achieves incontestable global internet search dominance. Who knows? It could happen. They're human, or Ozymandias.

Hell, is it even fair to ask a company to save a market from its less scrupulous competitors? From their own gullibility? That's what governments are for, right? Hell, sometimes people should be allowed to suffer their own mistakes. Sometimes, that's the only way they'll ever learn. I've argued as much for a number of things. But if Google can be the "champion of freedom" for others, it can at least be a "good example of better business practices" for me, dammit.

Ah, Catharsis

Yes, this is all crying over spilled milk. It isn't possible for Google to re-enter the Chinese search market now. It can't re-enter until there has been enough change on the censorship to avoid further suspicion and resentment amongst Chinese users. Therefore, I'm more or less ranting and whining about what I wish had not happened, kinda sorta unfairly blaming Google for what fucking garbage Baidu was, is, and will foreseeably continue to be.

Crying over spilled milk.

It is indeed paternalistic of me, but I do think Google still being around as a good example and solid competitor would have contributed to the faster development of China and the Chinese people, and toward mainstream norms and ideals that are shared with much of the rest of the world. This setback isn't likely to change the overall direction of China's integration with the larger dominant world community, but I still don't like that people are getting conned now and Baidu is enjoying any success as a result. Many disagree with me on what Google should or shoudn't have done, but with Baidu, I'm probably preaching to the choir.


1 Such as maps, music, and translation. []

2 Okay, maybe that's not true. It has probably created plenty of jobs for the Chinese. []

3 For the record, I don't think this is a racial or cultural issue, as some are wont to declare. []

4 mei ban fa, there's no way to avoid something or do otherwise. []

5 ban fa, a way []




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  1. bai ren

    -++1

    Yea the Chi­nese gov­ern­ment hasn’t out rightly blocked Google. But it has prac­ticed a lit­tle mud sling­ing. In Chi­nese type in “study lei Feng” “how to make car­rot soup” or “what is the tem­pre­ture in Shang­hai” (all dont by another adven­tur­ous blog­ger) and see your­self blocked. Then imme­di­atly try to goto google​.ca, or .uk or some­thing else and find your self blocked again. Wait a few munites after your rebel rous­ing and all will be fine again.

    Yea Baidu doesnt suit me for a search engine either, but im not lim­ited to chi­nese. Talk­ing to a mid­dle school stu­dent here who uses the inter­net to study she said she very infre­quently used google because there would be too much Eng­lish in her search results. I dont often use google to search in Chi­nese so I dont know what kind of pre­ven­ti­tive bar­rier lnaguage is on it.

    But now ask why. Why google as the alter­ni­tive? because it held a third mar­ket share before leav­ing? Altavista started ear­lier… but then lost trust of users by giv­ing email accounts to author­i­ties to pros­e­cute blog­gers. How about Bing or… damn my imag­i­na­tion is lim­ited here… but the point is lets not cham­pion google, lets chal­lange oth­ers to come to the forefront.

    good issue to bring up. dont want our short atten­tion spans to fade and foget.

    but know what im wait­ing for? QQ search! a QQ and face­book merger! LONG LIVE THE DIGITAL FARMER!

    • -+

      Agree, it doesn’t have to be Google (and now it obvi­ously can’t). Google just has the best track-record and thus gives more con­fi­dence of future suc­cess. You know how it is, it’s dif­fi­cult to fight your way up as an under­dog against entrenched com­pe­ti­tion, which Baidu is. But def­i­nitely, there can be cham­pi­ons for bet­ter prac­tices other than Google.

    • B-real

      -+

      google is great with a VPN. But with out it I can’t even get good results from the words mohawk?

      Whats the deal with block­ing the odd­est of shit searches?

      • bai ren

        -+

        there are key char­ac­ters such as ‘hu’ ‘wen’ and ‘xue” which are part of the names of three of the main lead­ers in China’s gov­ern­ment. are these key char­ac­ter searches not allowed because the lead­ers fear ppl may uncover dirt on them? or is just a way to make their pres­ence known? i dare not say

  2. lolz

    -+

    Baidu does suck big time. I heard peo­ple say that it’s good for music piracy but it can’t even do it that well.

    How­ever I am opti­mistic that some­one in China will cre­ate a good oppo­si­tion to Baidu because there is a demand for change.

  3. King Tubby

    -++1

    Lets get real exact here. Baidu is Chi­nese busi­ness prac­tice writ large.

    And since the op piece men­tioned dodgy hos­pi­tals and drug com­pa­nies pay­ing for posi­tion, if you really want to com­pound an exist­ing med­ical con­di­tion, visit a Chi­nese hospital…something akin to a cat­tle yard and Belsen. And west­ern drug com­pa­nies are also heav­ily involved in this pig slop which rep­re­sents itself as Chi­nese health care.

    More like the health mafia, and I will spare you the anecdotes.

    Chi­nese doc­tors know f.…a… about anatomy, phys­i­ol­ogy, virology(sic), immunol­ogy and all other aspects of knowl­edge required for half-decent decent health repair. In fact, they are pure unadul­ter­ated scum.

    Spent months teach­ing med­ical Eng­lish in Long Hua not far from the Fox­conn fac­tory, due to my work­ing past and died laughing.

    Self-diagnosis is nor­mally a dan­ger­ous activ­ity, but in China it is the health­i­est option.

    • bai ren

      -+-1

      tubby,
      iv had a few diag­nos­tic expe­ri­ances in chi­nese hosp­tials… my expe­ri­ance has been that they upsell. Have such and such prob­lem, well let us re3ccommend the lux­ury treat­ment bla bla bla.

      I am also very skep­ti­cal of their exten­sive use of iv antibi­otics, got an antibi­otic immune virus pan­damic, bet you it will come from china

      but i didnt think that they were THAT far behind when it comes to med­ical treat­ment such as surgery etc.

      Chi­nese med docs kick bloody ass when you get the good ones.

      any sourses to learn moer about this oh sage of the post board?

      • King Tubby

        -+

        Bai ren. Your spelling is appalling.… child­hood inheritance?????

        No. Chi­nese so-called doc­tors are very good at ceasar­ian sec­tions. Does your wife wear a bikini at the beach?

      • King Tubby

        -+

        Bai ren. While we are on the spelling curve, lets go for the hon­orific King Tubby, okay. Then you will be a fully fledged and accepted mem­ber of the lit­er­ate community.

        BTW. All your points were my non-included anec­dotes.
        Dig your later.

        • bai ren

          -+-1

          alas my sov­er­eign
          yes, the spelling prob­lem is one I have had since Child­hood. I rely upon mod­ern tech­nol­ogy such as spell check, and google when spell check fails to give me an appro­pri­ate alter­na­tive to get me through a ba and now a mapps. west­ern edu­ca­tion does not care about route mem­o­riza­tion and this can be seen in my gen­er­a­tions abil­ity to spell. you should beg the ques­tion about our abil­ity to effec­tively apply our cre­ativ­ity to aptly solve prob­lems.
          regard­less. as far as the prac­tice of west­ern med­i­cine goes in china. I have been treated no worse no bet­ter with a chro9nic stress con­di­tion here than in canada. fur­ther­more when I was on some weired med­i­cine and had the ill fate to real­ize that the ‘wink­ing eye’ on the side of the pre­scrip­tion was not a sug­ges­tion (okay so the med warn­ings here are not the same as in canada or the us) but an actual warn­ing about effects on heart rate I was prop­erly treated… with cheaper med when chi­nese friends spoke up on my side about not using the $$$ med. the dif­fer­ence between the two med­i­cines was most likely intel­lec­tual prop­erty rights and the hospital’s abil­ity to profit.

          and as for your ‘socalled’ chi­nese doc­tors, around 10% the cost of equally trained as west­ern prac­tic­ing doc­tors and far more effec­tive. that stress con­di­tion I men­tioned, treated and for 2 years no more chronic reap­pear­ances.\
          now maybe I was cured through the pow­er­ful abil­ity of placebo. if so I accredit them for hav­ing a placebo that works across cul­tural bar­ri­ers because I per­son­ally am as skep­ti­cal of their use of treat­ments as I am of so called west­ern sci­en­tific error and trial med­i­cine prac­ticed at the level of expertise.

          this comes to you via email spell check as sadly… or elit­ist my posts from china have no red under­lined mis­spelled words.

          • bai ren

            -+

            effects of beer etc on one’s heart rate
            the wink­ing eye a ref ot a great show

          • King Tubby

            -+-1

            Didn’t under­stand a word of your post. Buy a good paper OED…in fact we should all throw in a dol­lar to assist your literacy/spelling curve.

            You prob­a­bly think your prose prob­lems are of lit­tle con­se­quence. I don’t. You sim­ply degrade your argu­ments with your lim­ited writ­ing skills.

            I’m prob­a­bly old school, and don’t feel the need to slip into text mes­sage English.

            I’m glad I’m not on the receiv­ing end of your CV. It must read some­thing like a DPROK news announce­ment writ­ten under the influ­ence of horse tranquilliser.

            Playa might be a pain, but he writes you under the table every time and in his sec­ond language.

            Yes, let’s all cel­e­brate illit­er­acy in our native tongue.

            And your under­stand­ing of the so-called Chi­nese health­care sys­tem is zero.

          • bai ren

            -+

            Burn,
            Have­ing a hard time to remain rel­e­vant in a world where the young crit­i­cal and cre­ative are over­tak­ing you?

            poor king tubby. Should I degrade myself to the rules of the play­ground and attack your per­son? Should I ques­tion that you title your­self king because you use your avatar to stroke your ego which has been beaten down in the real world? Naaaa.

            You often have inter­est­ing things to say so praise to the king. and i find it unfor­tu­nate that instead of address­ing the topic and con­tin­u­ing a dis­cus­sion you chose to attack.

    • lolz

      -+

      There are plenty of good doc­tors in China. It’s just that the good ones are more costly. There are gen­er­ally two sys­tems in China, the free one and the one which you pay pre­mium to receive bet­ter ser­vice. The free one sucks but the pre­mium ser­vice is good with com­pe­tent doc­tors, and the price is around 1/6th that of US healthcare.

      My par­ents stay in Shang­hai hos­pi­tals at least a few times a year for vari­ety of rea­sons (food poi­son­ing is a com­mon one). So far they have only had good expe­ri­ences. The rate for hos­pi­tal stay there was some­thing like 2kRMB per day, which is a steal com­pared to the US where typ­i­cal hos­pi­tal stays are over 2kUSD per day. My dad recently was ordered to do some scan for his heart by the Chi­nese doc­tor after com­plain­ing about accel­er­ated heart beat. For a sec­ond opin­ion he took the find­ings to his pri­mary doc­tor in the US. The US doc­tor agreed with the Chi­nese doctor’s analy­sis and added that in the US it would be almost impos­si­ble to get all of this infor­ma­tion because these heart scans would of cost over $10kUSD. Insur­ance com­pa­nies would cover only a por­tion so most peo­ple choose not to go through to get all of the procedures.

      • bai ren

        -+

        so in both sys­tems we may have doc­tors advis­ing against the stats to do pro­ce­dures they will profit from? Sounds like china is learn­ing fast from neoliberalism

        • King Tubby

          -+

          Bai ren. Rel­e­vance. In your dreams.

          How­ever, I have sym­pa­thy for you lit­er­acy deficit. You are a foot sol­dier with­out a full grasp of the alpa­ha­bet. The wel­fare state where I live pro­vides for peo­ple for you.… night courses … at my tax pay­ing expense I should add. Dig ya later.

          • bai ren

            -+

            yes dig me later, I am sure.

            Foot sol­dier? come on sexy lets duke it out. but per­son against per­son? this is no fun. idea ver­sus idea, inter­pre­ta­tion ver­sus inter­pre­ta­tion. here I will meet you.

  4. -+

    I have to love all the hand wring­ing about Baidu/Google - but if any­one here has been read­ing sources like the Reg (http://​www​.thereg​is​ter​.co​.uk/​2​0​1​0​/​0​6​/​0​4​/​b​i​n​g​_​c​a​s​h​b​a​c​k​_​d​e​ad/) - one would be ask­ing a ques­tion that has not been touched - How much of the baidu search data (i.e. what peo­ple type in at search field at the first page) is being directly mon­i­tored by the CCP?

    For­get if the infor­ma­tion is blocked - I do believe that the CCP wants to know who is try­ing to access that information.

  5. -+

    I was doing some busi­ness in Shen­zhen, Guangzhou and Shang­hai recently that required me to visit sev­eral com­pa­nies. I sneak­ily looked at what aver­age peo­ple -- office staff, hotel help desk, etc. -- were using. It was gen­er­ally Chinese-language Google.
    There was noth­ing polit­i­cal -- just peo­ple seek­ing addresses, con­tacts, infor­ma­tion, or just hav­ing it as their home­page.
    Any­way, nice post. I laughed out loud when you started swear­ing at Baidu in large-font bold.

    • King Tubby

      -+

      Hey Joyce. Hang in here. This site needs more women posters.

      • -+

        Dammit, King Tubby, stop try­ing to pick up chicks on china/divide!

        • bai ren

          -+

          got to agree with king tubby on this one. we have too much of a gen­der divide here. there are many ways to com­mu­ni­cate and think, and men mostly try to pull out and have a whose big­ger compeitition

        • King Tubby

          -+

          Kai. I was being dead seri­ous here. This site is too blokey. (As for meet­ing girls on CD, keep it down as I don’t want to end up sleep­ing on the sofa.)

          • -+

            LoL, yeah, and I was just teasin’ ya. I’m all for more ladies so Jones can shake his stick at more people. ;)

            Oh dear, I think Jones and I just made all 3 girls that fol­low china/divide roll their eyes into the back of their heads, thereby set­ting our “more ladies” mis­sion back 3 steps.

          • Kris78

            -+

            Nah, we’re still here. And laughing.

        • Jones

          -+

          Yeah, we need a bit more divide on the sexes here. There’s too many guys to “shake a stick at”, a-har-har-har

        • -+

          Sorry, King Tubby. I’m married. :)

          • King Tubby

            -+-2

            So am I, Joyce. Dual wives who can cook (I do dishes and tons of house­work) and they also pro­vide pretty sharp con­ver­sa­tion, and also beat me up when I drink too much. The mort­gages are killing me, how­ever.
            I need a good finan­cial adviser.
            Cheers KT.

  6. Zuo Ai

    -+

    “-- com­mu­ni­cated that their way doesn’t work in China, that their way doesn’t work for China, that their way doesn’t work with the Chi­nese peo­ple. It taught the peo­ple to lose hope, to resign them­selves to Baidu, that Baidu’s way of doing things is the only way to suc­ceed in China.”

    I would say swap “China” for “CCP” in there

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